winston pure vs scott g series

While many 6-weights are essentially designed for casting streamers, these are primarily dry fly and nymphing sticks. We didn’t miss a detail. The Sage Trout LL 490-4 is the stoutest of the group. The tip follows through with authority on a cast of any length, so it turns over leaders precisely and consistently. Performance at 40 feet: 19.5 out of 20 The Scott GS 772-4 is the best technical dry fly tool of the group. Better than the Radian and Helios 3F in close. So, I love fast action rods, but I like a little finesse in them, also. Short enough to fish creeks but long enough to offer a degree of versatility, these rods are superb all-purpose dry fly rods that can handle a small nymph dropper, when desired. The Winston Air 8 ½’ 3-weight is supremely tuned to its line class. This is the most even casting, or “progressive,” of the 9’ 4-weights. The feel was also superb, giving me confidence in the direction of my cast. I can hit the distance but my accuracy is not so good. Sage’s accomplishment with the Trout LL is remarkable. It felt smooth and comfortable to cast, and I was getting very nice presentations, with superb accuracy. We offer casting notes, fishing recommendations and fly line suggestions for each rod. After all, there’s a lot of history and pride in F Series rods. The Sage LL and Scott G are more versatile both short and long than the Pure 9’ 4-weight, but in the 25-50’ zone the Pure is magic in both form and function. The extra 6” makes it less specialized as a creek rod but more capable with leaders over 9’ as well as the litany of techniques utilized for clever dry fly presentation:  reach casts, line mending, etc. It is a solid rod at this distance, and making good presentations with the smallest dries. It’s on the heavier side as far as swing weight goes but in the hand, it doesn’t feel at all burdensome or clunky. This rod delivers more line speed than others in the group and fishes to at least 60’ under the right circumstances. The Sage fishes best with a Rio Gold, whereas the Scott prefers an SA Trout Taper. Amazing touch in close, this rod is easy to load and you can feel the blank flex through the cork grip. This is the third generation of Scott G Series fly rods. It will drill a hopper to the bank, with or without a dropper, and you’ll love how light it swings all day long (or all week, or all month). The rod sports a moderate action blank with a slim profile including fine grip and guide configurations to encourage improved sensitivity. The Pure is fi… Winston Pure ($850) (Photo: Courtesy Winston) ... (hence the selection of the Scott F Series.) We also introduced the world to the hollow internal ferrule - the most sophisticated way to connect multi-piece fly rods in a smooth and seamless fashion. Only the Zephrus and Pure were better at mid-distance. Surprisingly, the G. Loomis NRX LP excels not only at shorter casts, but can hit the medium range just fine. Power must be applied smoothly, and carefully, otherwise expect tailing loops. Spectacular with a long leader, this is one of the finest tailwater style dry fly rods on the planet, offering unsurpassed line control with tremendous touch and the signature “Winston feel” on full display. Winston Elliott Scott (born August 6, 1950) is a retired United States Navy Captain and former NASA astronaut.He served as a mission specialist on STS-72 in 1996 and STS-87 in 1997 logged a total of 24 days, 14 hours and 34 minutes in space, including three spacewalks totaling 19 hours and 26 minutes. Chromed snake guides and stripping guide stand out on the deep-green rod finish, and a maple reel seat gives a touch of brightness to the sleek rod. It doesn’t offer a ton of muscle for long distance, however, but that’s not why people buy this rod in the first place. Compared with the Trout LL 389-4, the GS 883-4 feels lighter and casts more naturally throughout its range. Read our model-by-model reviews. Scott claims that this gives their rods better strength and we cannot argue with this as we see very few Scott rods broken. Overall, it is slightly slower action with more tip weight than the Sage Trout LL 490-4 and a little quicker than the Winston. It is accurate and effortless, but not versatile. The Winston Pure 6 ½’ 3-wt is the most specialized creeking tool in the group, reflecting 2 factors:  1)  rod length is often more important than line weight in making a rod feel light weight and cast well at short distances. Scott has been a leader in moderate action rods for more than 40 years. Winston’s proprietary design allows for maximum presentation and tippet protection. Here we have two legendary long 3-weights, same in purpose but different in character. It flexes deeply and evenly through the mid-section, excelling in the finer techniques:  line mending, tippet protection, touch at all distances and even single handed Spey casting. Similar to the other Trout LLs, it casts with unusual command and line speed with a relaxed casting stroke, especially over 30 feet. It is magnificent for casting tight loops with a dry fly and has plenty of command for dry dropper rigs. Compared with the Scott GS 843-4, it casts tighter dry loops with higher line speed in the 35-50’ range. It is highly responsive from tip to butt and begs for manipulation from the caster. It excels up to 30’ with a lovely, soft action that compares more to fiberglass rods than other graphite fly rods. The Pure 9’ 5-weight delivers that sensational Winston feel and might be the “most fun” caster of the three 9’ 5-weights. Each rod under consideration was cast side-by-side with its contemporaries with multiple fly lines. Interestingly, the 7 ½’ 3-weight Pure is a slower action rod that feels more closely related to the 6 ½’ 3-wt in this series. The Trout LL is truly world class. I recently had the opportunity to take the Scott G Series 905 with me on a trip to Wyoming, to fish with Jack Dennis for a few days. This is the only Winston Air model included in this review, but must be considered because it is one of the finest Winston fly rods and compares favorably with the GS 843-4. Super smooth, with an excellent blend of feel and power. The PURE isn’t a “modern” version of those classic rods, which is a good thing. Need to throw a size 26 midge to rising trout on a glassy pool? Like the original G2 rods, Scott stays true to the original G tradition, focusing on rods that ooze feel rather than rods that can cast the entire fly line. Winston PURE above. First is the reinvented hollow internal ferrule to make the rod more flexible, stronger, and over 20% lighter. The Pure features classic Winston fit and finish. It is a fine light rod that works beautifully in close but has the balance and backbone to reach out in the 30-40’ range. Paired with a Rio Gold line, the Trout LL 590-4 maximizes line speed and power with minimal input from the caster. It casts effortlessly from zero to over 70’, maintaining the intuitive “connectedness” for which this series is known. The Winston Pure 9’ 5-weight is the greatest surprise in the group because it casts and fishes in a much wider range than other Pure Series fly rods with a light tip feel more characteristic of the Winston Air series. We all have that one rod you plan trips around so you can use it when you are on the water. Defining characteristics of the Pure series:  feathery feel, like blowing pixie dust from a straw, Best models:  Pure 8’ 4-wt, Pure 9’ 4-wt, Pure 9’ 5-wt. Choose this rod as your mid-to-long 4-weight if you value progressive action but want a rod that’s a little slower than the Sage Trout LL 490-4. Best New Fly Rods for 2020. While there are limits to its range in the wind, the Air 8’6” 3-wt generates spectacular casting loops from 10’ to over 60’, when called upon. Short casts roll easily off the supple tip, delivering the fly just as accurately at 10’ as at 40’. Ditto the GS 906-4, but the Scott is slightly more touch-oriented than the Sage. Not an inch of graphite is wasted. The classic Winston green is a great stealth color on our eastern mountain streams. In the hands of most anglers, medium action rods out fish stiffer rods in all the little ways that add up to more fish caught and greater reward in the process:  roll casting, line mending, touch and tippet protection, not to mention effortless casting the addictive feel of fly rod and line working in harmony. The rod is effortless to cast, light in the hand and handles light tippet very nicely. Performance at 25 feet: 19.5 points out of 20. It doesn’t die at distance. The Scott offers more loop control and touch for dry fly presentations and technical nymphing fly line manipulation. © Copyright 2021 Telluride Angler 121 W. Colorado Ave PO Box 685 Telluride, CO 81435 1 (800) 831-6230 All rights reserved.Privacy PolicyWebsite by WEBDOGS. This rod feels more substantial than the GS 883-4, but not in a way that detracts from the fun factor. Scott G Series 8’ 4” 4 weight The Scott G is probably the most technical 4 weight rod on the market. Reaching out to 60 feet with a softer rod isn’t easy. The legendary GS 884-4 is the most progressive (even flexing) rod in the group. I really expected to see this new G Series 4-weight challenge the best rods. The AIR gets the job done. Posted by Freeland Wegner June 28, 2018. Perhaps more than any other rod designer, this is Jim Bartschi’s strength. You can really feel the tip follow through on every cast, creating line speed and turning over a long leader. Though the longest rod in this group, the “light tip” design of the GS 884-4 is notable compared with any 9’ fly rod. I’m making very accurate and delicate casts. …or, to most of us, the “Light Line.”  Reincarnations of beloved historical fly rods are risky. The G 844-5 and G 845-5, introduced in the 1983, were the first 5-piece graphite rods to market. Excellent craftsmanship. The Scott GS 904-4 also tolerates a range of lines and fishes with great versatility out to about 60’. Defining characteristics of Trout LL:  superb “progressiveness,” intuition in casting, command and stability throughout its range, Best models:  Trout LL 490-4 and Trout LL 590-4. For guides, there is a hook keeper followed by a single SiC stripping guide, then hard chrome snake guides. Rich Post describes casting, “like skiing the trees when time slows down and focus sharpens.”  The Scott GS 883-4 is believed by many to be the single finest rod in the G Series. The Pure 8’6” 4-wt casts with the slowest cadence. I scored the G series a perfect 20 out of 20, matching the Winston Pure. It is a tremendous challenge to create a moderate action fly rod with a light tip. The Radian is both stiffer and faster in action. But the G-Series gets the job done. If you are a fan of tossing dry flies and presenting them on a dime in any situation, then the New Scott G-Series Fly Rod is going to be that rod for you. REDINGTON This is a brand of highly respected fly rods that have earned a reputation for modest price, … Winston and Scott specialize is slower action fly rods, however, and these three are fine choices for the angler who prefers graphite to fiberglass in a small stream environment. It is a tool of lethal precision, excelling in the 30-60’ range with any type of leader or fly. What a choice to make! This rod uses spigot ferrules, rather than the slipover ferrule design found on most rods including the Scott Radian. Performance at 40 feet: 19.4 points out of 20. The epoxy coatings are excellent as is the overall craftsmanship, which we have come to expect from Scott. Winston Pure vs Sage Trout LL vs Scott G Series | Selecting a Medium Action Fly Rod. The G-Series will not disappoint at 40 feet. This is an exceptionally smooth casting rod, and I’m getting nice tight loops and very good accuracy. The Scott G was the first rod family to offer a graphite 9 foot model for a 4 weight rod in the history of fly fishing, introduced the world to the internal ferrule, and was the first graphite fly rod to offer a 5 piece model for the travel angler. The Sage Trout LL 486-4 is the fastest action rod in the group. Winston Scott is an actor, known for Mr. Lonely: No Place No Home (2018). In some cases, we compare multiple models of “tweener” length to help the angler choose from the reasonable proximate range. The newer G Series feels like a classic 4 weight, and was another top pick for me. Both rods cast and fish best with a Scientific Anglers Trout Taper line (Amplitude Smooth is our favorite). The Pure 490-4 fishes best with an SA Trout Taper WF4F line and a single dry fly. The Sage will cast and fish a little longer and handle a streamer with more confidence. The Winston Pure is a delight in the hand, with a perfect balance and low swing-weight. While it does not have the power that the H3F or Zephrus has, it still is more than capable of making long, accurate casts. Winston is in the game for the long haul, and you could not be disappointed in any Winston fly rod, from the lightest 3 wt to a hefty saltwater stick, they are superb fly rods. For instance, the original Sage RPL was a hell of a caster, only a little bit tip heavy (IMHO) and catching a fish in it was like phone sex. One of the few rods I could feel moving through the cork handle while I was casting. From the casting cadence to the color of the blank, the characteristics of the Trout LL gracefully acknowledge part of the Sage legacy too often forgotten in the face of its prowess in power-oriented fly rods:  Sage has made outstanding medium-action trout rods for over 30 years. Winston Pure 2wt: The lightest, most delicate rod we make.Meant for happy-go-lucky streams, this rod perfectly casts microscopic dry flies on the lightest tippet, and bends to the butt section with the weight of a 7” brook trout. The Scott GS 906-4 and Sage Trout LL 690-4 are wonderful, progressive action rods that can do it all for the angler. You can’t possibly go wrong, but each rod is unique. In 2019 is our Saltwater AIR series – lightweight saltwater rods with Winston Boron III technology that are easy to cast. R.L. Many consider the G Series a creation of unmatched fly fishing wizardry. The Sage Trout LL 586-4 may be the finest pure caster in the whole Trout LL series. So, if you’re in to fishing small pristine waters, and jewel like wild fish, treat yourself to the ultimate fishing tools-F Series rods from Scott-High performance, handcrafted, and pure fun. Scott introduced the first G rods in 1976, and changed fly fishing by creating the first 9’ 4 weight fly rod. Scott G. I won an original Scott G Series 3-weight, two-piece fly rod at a charity auction, years ago. This is a legitimate all-around 9’ 5-weight, not a specialized dry fly rod. I scored the G series a perfect 20 out of 20, matching the Winston Pure. It has all the good looks, but more finesse than the Radian, which makes for a great 4-weight rod. Line speed is slightly lower than the Trout LL, but it possesses greater ability to manipulate the cast and line on the water. About a month ago, I finally got my hands on a 9’ 4wt review model of the PURE. The move is often a marketing ploy rather than an act of fly rod innovation. The Trout LL offers more command on longer casts. Like the G2, the finish on the G-Series is brown with gold trim, and the rod is miraculously easy to bend. Unless you’re trying to mess up th… The wraps are brown with some amber trim. In the Pure series, Winston cemented its future by returning to its roots. The Winston Pure 7’ 3-weight is similar in character to the Pure 7’ 2-weight, casting with a slightly quicker cadence than its cousins. Articles This rod is designed for fishing at relatively short distance for its length and line weight, however. If you are a fan of the original G or G2 I would highly recommend adding this rod to your quiver. “Nothing but a G thang baby” – this rod makes me want it like…..crazy!!! The Nimbus delivers good accuracy and casting distance, falling behind only the class-leading Orvis H3F in both performance categories. Paired with a Rio Gold, it offers unmatched line speed with the ability to turn over delicate dry fly leaders in the wind. Logan’s Comments: The new Scott G Series is a nice improvement for an iconic rod. James’ Comments: Anglers who enjoy slower, softer action rods are going to fall in love with Scott’s new, buttery smooth G Series. You can’t pound this rod as you would an X or Igniter, but with a relaxed stroke, it does a sensational amount of work for the angler and feels great in the process. It is a very smooth rod to cast and was excellent at short and mid-distances, but at the longest distance the Radian, Helios 3F, and Avantt were much better. In close, this rod cast very well. 2)  this is the slowest action rod in the field. This affects the G Series’ capability to handle windy days, hook setting, and keeping that big brown away from that nasty stick pile once she’s hooked. Amazing feel! Scott feels that this gives the rod a smoother one-piece type action, and I agree as this is a very smooth casting rod that gives me a lot of feel at short to mid distances. Unlike many of the stiffer modern day 4-weights, the G Series rods do not require up-lining by a half line size. Choose this rod over the GS 843-3 for long leader dry fly fishing. In the wake of several fast action fly rod introductions, the WT and LT are the rods that many diehard Winston acolytes behold as the classics from this manufacturer. The Sage is slightly faster action than the Scott. More stable than the shorter 3-weights, it offers the best loop control of any comparable rod, particularly in the fishy 25-50’ range. It fishes just fine in close but comes into its element between 30 and 50 feet. Performance at 60 feet:  7.9 points out of 10. George’s Comments: The ... of this rod to form and maintain very tight loops helped it give me slightly more accuracy than the Helios 3F or Scott G series at mid-range. Traditionalists especially loved the sleek cigar grip which snugs comfortably in hand. The new G-Series fly rods, from Scott, are a unique and refreshing offering. In some cases, we found that a specific line brought a given rod model to life. For in close presentations, not much, if anything, can beat it. It has the greatest overall range, with superb touch and control from your boot tips out to around 50’. No problem. In addition to being a lovely caster of dry flies, the GS 884-4 offers the best roll casting and line mending capability of any rod in this group. SCOTT CENTRIC rods have arrived! This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. Its lack of guts compared to the Helios 3F and Zephrus were expected since this is a relatively soft rod. The result is wonderful dry fly rod that loads well in close and is accurate out to 45 feet. A couple testers found the grip a little ‘skinny’ in hand, though they admit they prefer the beefier half-well shape common on modern fast-action rods. The second is the combination of Scott’s new cutting edge fiber and resin systems which results in the most advanced multi-modulus layups they’ve ever created. ), especially with an SA Trout Taper line. [Sage Trout LL Page] The Scott G Series rods feature an advance medium action with two innovations. Not surprisingly, the GS 844-4 feels lightest in the group, on account of both its length and super light tip design. The G Series felt really nice at 40 feet. I preferred the Infinity fly line to the Trout at this distance. Defining characteristics:  light tips for a “magic wand” feel, progressive casting characteristics and surprisingly high line speed with an easy stroke, Best models:  GS 883-4, GS 844-4, GS 884-4 and GS 905-4. Fly fishing equipment reviews, practical advice, factory tours, interviews and instruction. The swing weight was fairly light, but not quite as good as either the Hardy rods or the Orvis rods. The blank is finished in natural graphite gray in the Scott tradition, with the blank sanded only lightly so that the tape marks remain. After all, Sage, Winston and Scott didn’t get here overnight. The Scott G Series 773-4 offers a small step up in casting range and line speed. Sage and Winston have answered the Scott G Series with the best moderate action rods that either maker has ever designed:  the Trout LL and Pure Series. Now the lack of butt power hurts, and I cannot throw the tighter loops or get the same kind of accuracy I was getting with the Radian, the Helios 3F or the T&T Avantt. The Sage delivers considerably more line speed, but the Scott holds up a long loop beautifully and has superior touch for carefully placing slack line casts. The cork handle is a more conventional western style grip than found on their Radian, with a flare on the back to accept the black anodized single uplocking seat that utilizes a brown graphite insert. Unbeknownst to Winn, his father was already showing signs of being a paranoid sociopath, but he was shielded from this by his mother. The angler may float a dry fly on an open loop for a slack line presentation or deliver a laser for cutting through the wind. As a mid-flex rod, it does all the little things well, including mending, reach casts and single Spey techniques, but you’ll want to just cast the rod over and over and over, short, long and all point in between. If you are a Scott fan and want a rod for fishing at short to medium distances, you’ll likely prefer this rod over the Radian. It’s a half measure slower than the 7’ 3-weight, so it specializes at short distances with small flies and has superior line mending and tippet protection capability. Fish the GS 886-4 with a short-headed line for maximum casting efficiency. The 6 ½ 3-wt Pure is the shortest of the three. The two 8’6” rods in this group represent the extremes in action. They stand confidently on their own, but the reference to the original Light Line is right on the money. Accurate, with loads of feel and touch. Finally the slower, softer action is catching up with the G Series. Guilty as charged, not a Pure Series fly rod. This is another gorgeous rod with superb craftsmanship. We also call out signature models in each series. At 25 feet the Scott G Series is incredible. In the early 1980’s Scott achieved industry benchmarks with the original G.  The G 904 was the first graphite 4-weight over 8’ ever produced. The G Series is a very smooth and really fun to cast in close. Both rods cast and fish best with an SA Trout Taper line. It has a “light tip” feel uncommon in the Winston lineup. True “creek” graphite rods are uniquely difficult to design because a shorter rod tends to leverage the cast and make the rod feel fast action. The Sage Trout LL 586-4 is the best tight loop dry fly caster, whereas the Scott GS 885-4 loads more deeply and offers superior line mending, roll casting and tippet protection. The G Series, like the Winston Pure, lacked a little bit of punch compared to the stiffer rods at long distance. The tip on the AIR has enough backbone to let you cast in tight quarters, and the rod as a whole is just exceptional out to 50 or so feet. The Scotts each offer something unique. This is a very pleasant rod to cast, with a medium fast action. It can do just about anything with a Rio Technical Trout line, but the Trout LL 490-4 is also the most adaptive to a wide range of lines, including the SA Trout Taper, Rio Gold and Rio Perception. Pure were better at mid-distance angler choose from the bank can feel the tip follows through authority. Will cast and fish a little quicker than the Winston Pure all the looks... 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